me now for a fair and balanced debate, leslie marshall a fox news contributor, lars larson, a syndicated radio host, and full disclosure, leslie's also married to a doctor, so we don't know if she's conflicted on this issue, but we've done a lot of obamacare discussions with this panel. [laughter] now these employees are coming up, the guy who owns the denny's tells us really, you know, sad story. he says, look, if i had to pay the $5,000 fine that you have to pay if you have more than 50 employees that are full time and don't cover them, he says it would cost me $175,000 per restaurant that i own, they don't even make that, i have no choice but to cut back hours and to pinch the customers a bit more. your thoughts on it, lars? >> well, as we heard from barack obama a long time ago, elections have consequences. and these days people are getting pink slips, and they're being told about the bad news on their health care because of those consequences. it's about as simple as that. i know that leslie thinks that every business owner has a closet full of $100 bills that he just